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Silver Label TL 9.5 flex & Battenkill V

Discussion in 'Equipment Discussion' started by cl3, Oct 5, 2016.

  1. cl3

    cl3 Member

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    Hi all...

    I fished the Salmon River for the first time last week, and it was fun but I had no success. We were fishing Joss Hole at DSR. I finally got off the fence and took the opportunity because a coworker knew the lay of the land and had some gear I could use. We were using 9' medium weight spinning rods, fake eggs and red sponge.

    The trip was worth it in the end, and I refer to it as Salmon School for the day.

    Needless to say, it took me all of 1 minute to realize every other single person was using a fly rod.

    I did learn a lot from a couple of guys who were kind enough to teach, and I see now it's all about line time in the water, not reeling in and re-rigging snags.

    The guys we talked to were using 8-9-10 weight rods, 12 or 15 lb test fluorocarbon line (?) attached the fly line, a swivel, and finally 8 lb test leader (I believe this was similar all around, but not sure). I think they had #1 hooks, tied with a schnell knot. The one guy swore by the these blue colored eggs that were anise scented. He killed them that day.

    I know there's more than one way to do these things, but another co-worker has offered to sell me a 9wt, 9' Orvis Silver Label TL, 9.5 flex and a Battenkill V reel that already has fly line on it. I can probably get it for under $200 since he's not using it and it was his dad's who passed away.

    Given what I learned, I believe this rod & reel would be the better way to approach this for my next trip, agreed? At the very least, the price probably can't be beat considering what I'd get new.

    Any thoughts or tips would be appreciated.
     
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  2. Flyrodde

    Flyrodde Came, Saw, Conquered

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    Should work fine to start.

    What battenkill model is it?

    BBS
    Mid arbor
    Larger arbor

    The mid is the better of the three
    Bbs will eventually smoke
    Large will last longer but will smoke too

    Orvis has a good warrenty so if they do you should get repaired or replaced.
     
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  3. cl3

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    Large Arbor.

    I figure it's a low risk purchase, right? The gear was taken care of, and I'm only going to be able to Salmon fish once or twice a year at this point.

    Any comments on the line rigging?
     
  4. Flyrodde

    Flyrodde Came, Saw, Conquered

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    That is the normal way to rig. You will fine tune as you learn. It is a good starting outfit.
     
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  5. cl3

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    Cool. Thanks for the chat... I'm glad I got up there and learned what I did, and fish or no fish, I did have a line in the water.

    Tight lines.
     
  6. Linescreamer

    Linescreamer 1,000 Post Club

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    Very low risk and you could probably resell it for that price.
     
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    Jump on it!
     
  8. cl3

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    It's sitting on my desk...

    ;OD

    I think I have the market cornered, just need to pull the trigger.
     
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    No I meant jump on it.
    Great Warranty.[​IMG]
     
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  10. Randy Jones

    Randy Jones Fishing Addiction Affliction

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    Welcome! Thanks for the report! Glad you had fun and learned some stuff. I'd buy it, if I was in your same shoes.
    Ive been using Orivs fly stuff for approx. 40 years full-time, salt and fresh water and have enjoyed 99% all aspects of their entire product line. Perfect rod reel combo for the SR.
     
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  11. cl3

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    Just to close this out, I tested the rod & reel out in the backyard over the weekend and bought it. Now I need to get back up there...
     
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    I did that once. Hooked the dog in the ass....that was the best fight of the season.
     
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  13. cl3

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    Just resurrecting this as we plan to come up soon... I want to hit the ground running, will noodle as needed during the day.

    The rod is ready... 7ft of 15# flourocarbon, barrel swivel, 30" -ish of 8# mono, #1 octopus circle hook snelled on the line. Split shots as needed along the line.
     
  14. Flyrodde

    Flyrodde Came, Saw, Conquered

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    Bring stronger tippet and use a #6 or 8 hook.
     
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    renoofturks Why am I here?

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    ...stronger than #8?!
     
  16. Pliskin

    Pliskin I'm still the F'n Ukrainian Staff Member

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    Sure, why not. He's targeting salmon. Its only a 9' rod (not that there's anything wrong with that), and, no disrespect toward him, but he's new to salmon. Not questioning his fishing abilities, but learning how to fight/land salmon in a river is a new experience. A 10# to 12 tippet would probably be more foregiving, given the other circumstance.
     
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  17. cl3

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    Pliskin, yup. Nailed it. Tomorrow will be my second time on the Salmon River ever. I'm usually smallmouth / trout fishing in northeast PA.

    I will grab some heavier tippet line and some smaller hooks for variety, Flyrodde.
     
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    A 9' 9 weight flyrod may not be forgiving enough for lighter tippets, although that would lessen the chance of breaking the rod with heavier ones. But I agree with Pilskin 10 or 12 ought to be about right, 8 if the water dropped and got very clear, but you would need to play a little more sheepishly with the 9 weight. Not that there is anything baahahahd about that!
     
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    Flyrodde Came, Saw, Conquered

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    For salmon i use maxima ultra green 15 butt and 10 tippet. When deaddrift swinging comets. Or drifting skein

    Why so heavy?

    A: it is not heavy for a 20lb fish, as most bass guys use 10lb as a starting point for 3lbers.

    Two: i fish for biters and they are not line shy.

    C: I dislike loosing gear and a straight pull on 15 will pop most snags out without breaking everything off. I can also fish longer on abraded tippet and have a better chance of landing fish that drag me over rocks.

    Use a cheap fly line, it will be destroyed.
     
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    I'm sorry but it's simply overkill.

    Using #10 isn't going to teach him much about fighting salmon/steelhead, as he won't have to fight them. He can just reel them in.

    I'd rather not have more lines over #8 stuck all over the river for me to get my boots caught on. #8 breaks when I get it caught on a boot, #10 usually trips me.
     
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