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Discussion in 'Technique Discussion' started by Northcountryman, Oct 8, 2017.
If they were fishing an illegal length of leader, those fish don't count. jus my opinion.
This Thread has turned into a poop storm lol
I am still trying to figure out why everyone is fixated on leader length. There is no such regulation except in the fly zones that mandates a leader or length.
It is only distance of weight from hook.
Besides, someone ^ should know THAT does count for something. A ticket
Everyone or someone??
If I were fishing with "friends " , I'd expect "someone " should.
I would hope everyone would
Again, I have to disagree everyone should. Remember position, sometimes it means everything.
Examples. If I were somewhere and wanted to go fishing on a tour, given that , I'd expect I'm the dummy and don't know the rules . If I decided to go out by myself then I'd also expect to know them rules before setting off .
It's all about position and yes, most everyone gets into a bad one every once in awhile so live and learn.
Now myself and Lucky13 are probably in the worst.
I don't know what everybody should know A rule. Like the 4' rule I was commenting on has anything to do with positioning
Count for what and who is keeping count? Just saying.
How were they snagged with plugs thst you wtnessed?
By bank monkeys a simple cast and speed retrieve.
At its worst they had beadchain with multiple trebles trailing.
From drift boat anchored upriver from redds.
The boat jockey would drop an oar into the water causing the front of the boat and the plugs would swing back and forth thru the redd.
Drop the other oar and sweep back the other direction.
Rinse, repeat until a king was stuck.
Running J plugs up the Genesee River at 5 mph for sammins that "don't bite" when they are into spawning often results in foul hooked fish on plugs. It's called Power Trolling, ask some of yer buddies out on the Lake about it.
So elliciting a defensive strike from a salmon is snagging? Isnt that what you do with your fly in their face?
If the fish is hooked in the mouth, either way, plug or fly, is just fine, and would be interpreted as a defensive strike from the sammin. Hooked in the side of the head, either way the fish is fouled. Run 5 mph up the Genesee with a J-plug, some will hit it, but many a "power trolled" fish is just the victim of a very expensive snagging rig!
Not sure where you got that but it wasn't from me.
I said till a king was struck not until a king struck.
Pretty huge difference between them.
And yes at times flyfishing I let the fly hang and dangle in front where I believe a fish might take.
Mostly I swing flies and I am looking for the fish that will chase it down and try to kill it
Definately looking for aggression bites.
Again that is different than Salmon River POWER SWINGING where the intent is to find the fish rather than the fish finds the fly.
Throw a mend to put a bow in the line to really get the hook cooking going thru the holding water.
The discussion was about snagging with plugs.
That is what I'm talking about.
Not talking about defensive strikes.
Correct Position directly relates to the angle to the fish. Need to give your float, weight, mending or whatever a chance to get your offering into the strike zone. (where in the water column you want your presentation to be at, when it reach's the fish)